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John Newman Oglethorpe

Male Bef 1716 - Aft 1795  (> 81 years)


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  • Name John Newman Oglethorpe 
    Born Bef 1716  Charleston, Berkeley District, SC Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Died Aft 1795  Camden District, SC Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I3209  MyTree
    Last Modified 15 Aug 2009 

    Father Richard Oglethorpe,   b. 1670,   d. 1716  (Age 46 years) 
    Mother Johanna Little,   b. Abt 1671, prob London, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft 1716, Charleston, Berkeley District, South Carolina Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 46 years) 
    Married 5 Sep 1704  Charleston, Berkeley District, SC Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID F4617  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 Hannah Adams,   b. Abt 1747, Lexington Co., SC Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Married Aft 1769  Lexington Co., SC Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Last Modified 17 Jul 2017 
    Family ID F2915  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 2 Eleanore Middleton,   b. 1720,   d. 1768  (Age 48 years) 
    Married Abt 1744  Lexington Co., SC Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. Thomas Oglethorpe,   b. Abt 1746, Lexington Co., SC Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
    +2. Sarah Oglethorpe,   b. 1750, Lexington Co., SC Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     3. Susannah Oglethorpe,   b. Abt 1752, Lexington Co., SC Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft 1817  (Age ~ 66 years)
     4. Rebecca Oglethorpe,   b. Abt 1754, Lexington Co., SC Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     5. Mary Oglethorpe,   b. Abt 1769, Lexington Co., SC Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
    Last Modified 17 Jul 2017 
    Family ID F4615  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • John Newman Oglethorpe seems a likely possibility to have been the
      grandfather of John Culpepper, since he was the only Oglethorpe living
      in geographic proximity to the Culpeppers in the 1770's.
      Researcher Janet Biondo has found our earliest references to
      date on John Newman Oglethorpe. In 1738, in the South Carolina
      Gazette:
      OGLETHORPE, Newman (address unknown),
      Doctor................................................ Local News
      Article, 01/19/1738 Charlestown Jan. 26
      .
      We hear that at Mr. William Flud's at the Sign of the Harp and
      Crown, is held a Lodge of the ancient and honourable Society of Free
      and Accepted Masons, belonging to the Lodge of St. John, Doct. Newman
      Oglethorpe being chosen Master.
      OGLETHORPE, ??? (address unknown),
      Doctor.................................................... Financial
      Notice, 11/08/1751, 11/13/1751, 11/18/1751 Article Subjects: Financial
      Affairs, Bonds & Notes, and Loans and Money.
      .
      Doct. Oglethorpe (in order to satisfy his creditors) desires
      every person that has not lately settled his or her accompt to his
      satisfaction, to do it before the first of January next, after which
      day he is determined to sue every person who pays not a due regard
      hereto.
      OGLETHORP, ??? (King's Tree, SC),
      Doctor..................................................... General
      Advertisement, 11/05/1753, 11/16/1753, 11/20/1753 Article Subjects:
      Auctions, Real Estate, and Law Enforcement.
      .
      TO BE SOLD for ready money, at public vendue, in Charles-Town,
      on tuesday, the 4th of December next, a house and lot in the township
      of Williamsburgh, at the King's-Tree, lately belonging to ___?___
      Jameson deceased, seized on execution; being the place now or late
      possessed by Doctor Oglethorp.
      .
      We next find John Newman Oglethorpe in Rowan County, NC, where
      he was described as a "chirurgeon" or surgeon. He owned land along
      Abbott's Creek in that portion of Rowan County lying east of the
      Yadkin River. In 1755 he purchased two town lots in the north square
      of Salisbury, apparently for speculative reasons (from Carolina Cradle
      by Robert W. Ramsey, p. 159).
      .
      No records have yet been found for John Newman Oglethorpe
      between 1755 and 1764, but at some point during that period of time he
      returned to South Carolina, whether to Charleston, or to Camden
      District, is not certain.
      Craven Co. SC, 15 May 1764, Hardyrice Jernigan and Needham
      Jernigan, of Craven Co., to Joseph Kershaw & Co., merchants, of Pine
      Tree Hill, for L 595:2:5 currency, 3 Negroes belonging to HardyRice
      Jernigan, & 200 ac. on Jumping Gully conveyed to Needham Jernigan by
      James McGirt. Date of redemption: 1 July next. Witnesses: John
      Chestnut (merchant), Ely Kershaw. Before John Newman Oglethorpe, J.P.
      Entered in Secretary's Book & p. 257 on 25 May 1765 by George
      Johnston, Dep. Sec. Recorded 26 Oct 1765 by Fenwicke Bull, Register.
      By 1765, John Newman Oglethorpe was in Camden, SC, where a deed
      was witnessed in his presence as a Justice of the Peace (SC Deed Bk
      E-3, p.186, recorded 21 Oct 1765).
      On another deed recorded that same day, Robert Milhous, Hannah
      Oglethorpe and Thomas Oglethorpe witnessed a deed with John Newman
      Oglethorpe as Justice of the Peace (SC Deed Bk E-3, p. 192) .
      The next day Robert Milhous, Thomas Oglethorpe, and Samuel Wyly
      witnessed another deed between the same parties, Samuel Gibson and
      Isaac Ross, with John Newman Oglethorpe as J.P. (SC Deed Bk E-3, p.
      194). The land in these deeds was on the Wateree River, which is near
      Camden.
      TheHannah Oglethorpe, mentioned above, was John N. Oglethorpe's
      wife. On two occasions in 1768, Thomas Oglethorpe was reimbursed by
      the South Carolina Commons House of Assembly for transporting a
      prisoner to jail (Citizens and Immigrants--South Carolina, 1768, by
      Mary B. Warren). So perhaps he was the son of John N., and was about
      16 to 20 years old in 1768.
      John Newman Oglethorpe was a Presbyterian, which displeased the
      itinerant Anglican minister, Charles Woodmason. On Sunday, August 7,
      1768, he wrote: "And yet there is a Magistrate here -- but he is a
      Presbyterian -- So are these Wretches. Instead of this Magistrate
      punishing these worthless Sinners he protects them-- and he had the
      Assurance to write to me to make them Satisfaction for my Admonitions
      to them (they not being of my Church he said) or he should indite me
      for an Assault--This dirty fellow I must report to the Governor and
      Council: How can Ministers suppress Vice, thus openly countenanc'd and
      protected?..." But elsewhere in his writings Woodmason was kinder:
      "There's Mr. Oglethorpe, there he sits, God bless Him, I say it in his
      face, He's a Jewel of a Man, and strives to compose Peoples Janglings
      all he can, as far as he knows and no Man can do more--and yet very
      often instead of being prais'd and Esteem'd for admonishing and
      reproving offenders against the Laws He is often hiss'd and hooted at
      When by St. Patrick would he exert his Authorityship properly, He
      might commit them to the stocks, or bind them over to their Good
      Behavior...." These quotes are from Charles Woodmason, The Carolina
      Backcountry on the Eve of the Revolution, edited by Richard J. Hooker.

      Pp. 221-226: 15 May 1767, Col. Isaac Brunson & wife Mary of St.
      Marks Parish, Craven Co., planter, to Andrew Rembert Senr., planter
      (lease s10, release ), 250 A adj. Porcher, Thomas Jones, granted 24
      Mar 1756 to Isaac
      Brunson Isaac Brunson (LS), Wit: Isaac Brunson, Peter Brunson.
      Prov. in Craven County before John Newman Oglethorpe by Isaac Brunson,
      19 May 1769. Rec. 7 May 1771 (SC Mag of Ancestral Research, Vol. IV,
      p. 201).
      Pp. 284-290: 6 Sept 1764, John McGowen & wf Sarah of Berkley
      County, SC, planter, to Joshua English of Fredericksburgh Township,
      Craven County, planter, (lease s 10, release £ 400), 300 A in
      Fredericksburgh Tonwship, adj. Alexander Rattray, William Kelly,
      granted 5 Sept ____, to James McGowen, and by the death of James
      McGowen, became the property of John McGowen as son and heir Jno
      McGowen (LS), Sa McGowen (LS), Wit: John Stevenson, John Hunter.
      Proved 27 Sept 1768 before John N. Oglethorpe, by John Stephenson.
      Rec. 18 May 1771 (SC Mag of Ancestral Research, Vol. V, p. 38).
      In January 1768, a belated deed, dated 22 May 1739, was recorded
      in Charleston, between John (German script) Pnuder, Shoemaker, and Ann
      Eleanor, his wife, and John Pearson, all of Berkeley County. Witnesses
      were John Newman Oglethorpe, John Hearn, and Philip Morris, John
      Perkins, J. P. (National Gen. Soc. Quarterly, 1985, Vol. 73, p. 190).
      John Newman Oglethorpe was foreman of the first Grand Jury to
      sit in Camden District, SC, in November 1772 (South Carolina Gazette,
      10 Dec 1772).
      A Memorial dated 5 January 1775, for Paul Porcher, 500 acres in
      Granville County, St. Peter's Parish. Bounded North on Oglethorpe, now
      Middleton; East on Loriman; South on John Bull, and West on the
      Savannah River [Book 13-217:2].
      A Memorial dated 11 February 1775, for John Newman Oglethorpe, 450
      acres in Craven County, bounded on the South on an open branch of the
      Black River, bounded NE on land surveyed; other sides vacant. Survey
      certified 29 March 1773; granted 26 August 1774. Quit Rent in two
      years. Jno. Belton, DS. Delivered 27 April 1775 to John Adamson [Book
      13-308:1] (South Carolina Memorials of Land Titles 1774-1776 by Jesse
      Hogan Motes III and Margaret Peckham Motes).

      A Memorial dated 15 May 1775 for John Chisholm: 200 acres in Granville
      County. Bounded South on Oglethorpe's Barony; East and West on vacant
      land [Book 13-479:5].

      On 10 November 1777, John N. Oglethorpe, Esq., one of the justices
      assigned to keep the peace in Camden District, took the oath of John
      Belton on a deed (Kershaw County SC Deed Book A, p. 351).

      In November 1795, John Newman Oglethorpe was ordered by the court to
      examine the witnesses of the will of John Kelley. "By the court help
      for Newberry County 2 March 1793 ordered letters of administration for
      the estate of John Kelly deceased granted to Abijah O'Neal, Samuel
      Kelley Junr. By the judges of the county Court of Newberry Ordinary 21
      Nov. 1795 by virtue of a didimus from under the hands of William
      Campbell Governer directed to John Newman Oglethorpe of Camden
      District to examine the witnesses of the will of John Kelley Sen.
      Deceased letters of administration granted to Samuel Kelley Junr. And
      Abijah O'Neal and an inventory to be made" (Abstracts of Newberry
      County Will Book A, p. 176, as found in The SC Mag. of Ancestral
      Research, Vol XI, Summer 1983, #3, p. 160-1