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Sarah Oglethorpe

Female 1750 - Yes, date unknown


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  • Name Sarah Oglethorpe 
    Born 1750  Lexington Co., SC Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Female 
    Died Yes, date unknown 
    Person ID I3198  MyTree
    Last Modified 15 Aug 2009 

    Father John Newman Oglethorpe,   b. Bef 1716, Charleston, Berkeley District, SC Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft 1795, Camden District, SC Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age > 81 years) 
    Mother Eleanore Middleton,   b. 1720,   d. 1768  (Age 48 years) 
    Married Abt 1744  Lexington Co., SC Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID F4615  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family John Culpepper,   b. Abt 1748,   d. Aft 1772  (Age ~ 25 years) 
    Married Bef 1772 
    Children 
    +1. John William Culpepper,   b. 1 Oct 1772, Camden District, SC Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 13 May 1855, Wadley, Randolph Co., Alabama Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 82 years)
    Last Modified 17 Jul 2017 
    Family ID F4613  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • In a biographical sketch of Francis Gillespie Culpepper which appeared
      in the Lavaca Co., TX Shiner Gazette on 2 Feb 1898, it was stated that
      the grandmother of Francis G. Culpepper and therefore the mother of
      John Culpepper [1772-1855] and the wife of the elder John Culpepper
      "was a sister to General Oglethorpe." Lewis Peek Culpepper, another
      grandson, read this article and in a 19 Mar 1898 letter to B. F.
      Burke, wrote that with the exception of the year of birth of his
      brother, "it was a tolerable correct historical account." Nothing has
      been found to support the Oglethorpe connection except that John
      Culpepper [1772-1855] had a daughter, Sarah O., and two grandsons with
      a middle name of Oglethorpe. William L. Carlisle wrote 29 Aug 1978: In
      all our research we have been unable to find any clue which might lead
      us to the conclusion that any member of his family, except himself
      [General James Edward Oglethorpe], ever came to America. Within six
      months of his death, two nephews in France, most likely a son of
      Eleanor [a sister] and a son of Fanny [a sister], indicated their
      intention to file a claim for any property he may still have had in
      Georgia. It occurs to us, as it must surely to you, that if any
      relatives were known to be living in the Colony, particularly a
      sister, the nephews would not have presumed to assume the role of
      "heirs." There is no record of the French kin coming to America at the
      time....

      In the 29 Aug 1978 letter, William L. Carlisle included the following
      from James Edward Oglethorpe - Imperial Idealist by Amos Aschbach
      Ettinger which was published at Oxford by the Clarendon Press in 1936:
      Theophilus Oglethorpe of West Riding, Yorkshire, and Eleanor (Ellen)
      Wall were married in 1680. To this union nine children were born as
      follows: Lewis b Feb. 1681 d 8 Sept. 8, 1704 The Hague Theophilus, Jr.
      b 1682 d 1737 In France Anne Henrietta b 1683 d Sept. 5, 1756 at her
      home, Strand-on-the-Green, England. She was created Countess of
      Oglethorpe in 1722 and afterward made her home with her brother James
      for a period. We find no record of her ever having married. Eleanor b
      1684 We do not know the date of her death. In 1707 she was married to
      Eugene-Marie de Bethisy, Marquis de Mezieres. She probably died in
      France. James b June 1, 1689 bur June 15, 1690 Louisa Mary (Molly) and
      Sutton (twins) b Sept. 1693. Sutton lived seven weeks. In 1733 Molly
      married Marquis de Bensonpiere. The Marquis died within a year and the
      Marquise closed her career in a minor post in the court of Spain. We
      did not find the date of her death. Frances Charlotte (Fanny) b Feb.
      1696. In December 1719 she married Jean Francois de Bellegarde,
      Marquis de Marches of Peidmont. She must have also died in France on
      an unknown date. James Edward b Dec. 22, 1696 d 1785 in England. The
      founder of the Colony of Georgia. He came to America first in January
      1734 and stayed until late in the year 1743. He made two prolonged
      trips back to England in the interim in connection with the
      administration and military affairs of the Colony but when he sailed
      from Charles Town for London in 1743, he never saw his beloved Georgia
      again. On Sept. 15, 1744, in King Henry VII Chapel in Westminster
      Abbey, he was married to Elizabeth Wright the only daughter of Sir
      Nathan Wright, Baronet. There were no children.

      The problem with the idea that the elder John Culpepper married one of
      the descendents of General Oglethorpe is that the sisters are a
      generation too early for such a marriage and the husbands of General
      Oglethorpe's sisters are known. An Oglethorpe researcher, Kenneth H.
      Thomas, Jr., wrote (16 Jun 1985) that neither General Oglethorpe "nor
      his brothers, left any children at all, male or female. There are many
      descendants of his sisters, though, but all remained in Europe (at
      least during the 1700s) and married noble Catholic families."

      Perhaps the wife of the elder John Culpepper was an Oglethorpe or a
      descendant of an Oglethorpe, but not a sister of the General. The
      Oglethorpe name is rare in the United States, it was not represented
      at all in the 1790 census of the United States. However, there were
      Oglethorpes living in Camden District, SC in the 1760's and 1770's.
      Hannah, Thomas, and John Newman Oglethorpe all witnessed a deed for
      land on the south side of the Wateree River in 1765 (SC Deeds Book
      E-3, p. 192). John Newman Oglethorpe is mentioned in Robert W.
      Ramsey's Carolina Cradle as being a resident of Camden, SC, during
      1765-1768.

      For search purposes, the name Sarah Oglethorpe has been tentatively
      suggested as the name of the wife of the elder John Culpepper since
      John and Nancy (Gillespie) Culpepper named other children for presumed
      relatives, e.g., Francis Gillespie Culpepper and Daniel Peek
      Culpepper, and so possibly their daughter, Sarah O. Culpepper, was
      named for her grandmother.