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Tregaron was in Cardiganshire before 1974, after which the county
became known as Dyfed until 1996. In 1996 it became known as the
county of Ceredigion.
Back in early 1999, B. Franklin Reinauer III sent a letter stating:
"While on a trip to London, I located Derlwyn (the property owned by
Phillip S(h)elby in Tregaron Parish, Dyfed, Wales on an Ordinance Map.
There is a footpath leading from Tregaron across the Valley of the
Afon Teifi over a footbridge to Derlwyn..." on the map it shows
Derlwyn just NW of Tregaron...Then a bit later in the year, I heard
from a person, who either didn't know what they were tallking about,
or was pulling leg! Said they had been to the library in Aberystwyth
and had looked at the records ..... This person said the Shelby
homestead was located precisely at the valley where the two rivers,
the Croes and the Berwyn meet, within walking distance of Tregaron.
(Source: Judith Trolinger-2003)
The below is from a Shelby Genealogical Mailing List which I am on:
"Dear Judy,
Although I do not have my materials "out" right now, I was in Tregaron
several years ago. I visited both the sites you mentioned, and my
impression then was that there were two Shelby farms near Tregaron.
The Derlyn one is now a modern farm, and there was an older farmhouse
that has been torn down. We drove to this place by passing the
footpath and getting to a road that led up to the farm. The lady who
owns the farm with her husband was most cordial, but didn't know the
history of the farm. It is certainly Derlyn and still carries that
name. The other place at the meeting of the two rivers we could see, but did not have exact enough information to find the place. Derlyn is up on a hill looking down on the river, a beautiful setting and a prosperous farm. The other place
lies in the valley, and there are quite a few houses in the area now.
The man who owns Derlyn might be a good source of information about
the farm if he was home -- I understood it had been in his family for
some length of time. Nobody that we talked to had any recollection of
the Shelbys. There is a bed and breadfast right near the turn off road
that leads up to Derlyn Just past the bridge (which is old, but was
nevertheless built after our family left Wales.) It turned out to be
quite busy even in Tregaron in the summer time and also the fall. The
area is remote and old fashioned. We heard quite a lot of Welsh
spoken, and that was interesting.
Kay Kitzmiller"
On June 17th, 2004 I went to Tregaron, Wales and found the location of
the point where the Croes and the Berwyn meet. There is in fact a
footpath leading there and, although there is no evidence of a
building there, I believe that was the location of the old homestead
of the Shelby's. (MCM-2004)
28 Aug 2001--Ron Shelby sent a copy of the original Baptismal record
for Evan Shelby Sr-found in the records in the National Library of
Wales. Father's name, Selby Phillip
From Ron Shelby-Sept 2001
"Selby was buried in the local church yard on 26 June, 1731, and his
name is recorded as "Shelby Phillip" at this time. This is a very
clear record..Unfortunately, the graveyard filled up early in the 19th
century, and all the pre 1800 gravestones were removed.
There appears to be no chance to find the exact burial site of
Phillip or his headstone. So, while Philip is definitely Evan's
father, his own origin is still a mystery. The fact that he was buried
as a "Shelby" by the village priest was a surprise to me." (Courtesy
of: Judy Trolinger)
"When she drove my mother and me to the Shelby homestead site I admit
being somewhat skeptical that it was the true location. But I later confirmed the
facts with Rev. Davis by going through the parish records. When Evan
senior married Catherine Davies, the records (written in Latin)
clearly state that he was a yeoman (farm-owner) of the parcel of land
at themeeting of the Croes and Berwyn rivers." (Source:
lisa.mormon@which.net)
In the St. Caron's burial record Philip Selby was said to be of
Derllwyn, Irecefel township, Parish of Caronuwch-Clawdd, Co. Cardigan.
(Wales)
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Abt 1650 - 1731 (81 years)